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FIREWORKS: Byron Donalds SCHOOLS Joy Reid on Social Security & CRT


Sparks flew on Tuesday night’s edition of The ReidOut on MSNBC when Joy Reid had an unexpected guest: Florida Republican Congressman Byron Donalds. As you can imagine the interview got quite heated at various points mostly caused by Reid’s hostility and ignorance on a wide range of issues from the insolvency of Social Security to Critical Race Theory. 

After Reid listed off many of the priorities of the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, Donalds pointed out how his fellow Congressman Jody Arrington “wants to look into the budget and also look into entitlements.” 

Donalds then brought up the irrefutable fact that “Social Security is going to be insolvent in 2035.” This caused Reid to lose it and she began lashing out simply repeating “that’s not true” without making any attempt to refute what the Congressman said. 

“Joy, I’m a finance professional. I do more than just Congress. I worked in the financial community. I’m telling you. Social Security will go insolvent,” Donalds explained to the delusional Reid. 

“That’s actually not true. That’s not true,” Reid cried. “Those are the facts,” Donalds shot back. 

“What the Republican Party and what the Tea Party have proposed is privatizing Social Security. Which would actually subject Social Security to the whims of the market,” Reid claimed. 

Donalds explained that, “If you look at the S&P 500, from 2006 until today, the growth rate in the S&P 500 would have more than taken care of Social Security. Way more than the federal government has.” 

REID: You’re in favor of privatizing Social Security?

DONALDS: No. I’m not in favor—

REID: But you just argued for it. 

DONALDS: You brought it up and I brought you the facts. 

[crosstalk]

REID: So if a bill came forward to privatize social security, you’d be for it? 

DONALDS: No, because what we should be doing — 

REID: Then it’s a moot point. 

DONALDS: It’s not a moot point. You’re trying to put words in my mouth.  

REID: You just explained that the S&P 500 would be a better return than social security. So then you’re for privatizing it. 

[crosstalk]

DONALDS: That’s a fact. Don’t cheapen privatization when the data is crystal clear that the returns would have been better. 

REID: You’re for it. 

DONALDS: That means it would have been a better situation. 

Later on in the segment, Reid attempted to pick a fight with Donalds on voting laws and Critical Race Theory which the left has injected into public school curriculums while denying its existence. 

Reid started back up her accusatory antics: “On voting laws, you voted — you defend voting laws that said getting rid of ballot harvesting is a good thing, so you defended the Florida voting laws.” 

“They have the best election laws in the country. Florida laws are the best election laws in the country. Go ask Arizona, go ask California, go ask New York. We do it the best,” Donalds shot back. 

She then served up another false narrative which Donalds skillfully smacked down like a game of whack-a-mole: 

Donalds explained one of the issues with the left’s Critical Race Theory indoctrination: 

Reid jumped back in to ask if Donalds believe[s] “students should be learning about the racial history of the country” and then repeated the false claim that “Critical Race Theory is not taught in a single K-12 school.” 

After Reid claimed “we’re actually literally out of time” in the segment, Donalds was a gentleman and responded, “It’s your show, I’m going to give you the last word, but we’re gonna do this again.” 

This segment of MSNBC’s The ReidOut was made possible by ADT Security Services. Their information is linked. 

MSNBC’s The ReidOut
1/10/2023
7:18:44 p.m. Eastern

JOY REID: I want to start by just talking about, in the previous segment with congressman Swalwell, we were just talking about the changes that are happening in the house under this new leadership. Three people including Congressman Swalwell, Ilhan Omar, and Adam Schiff are being taken off their committees. Those who are being added, Congressman Santos is the one who made up his whole resume, allegedly in New York, Paul Gosar, whose family have said he’s a white supremacist, he attended sort of meetings of white supremacy and got kicked off his committees because he tweeted out an anime depicting him killing AOC, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And Marjorie Green. They’re getting back on committees. I just wonder what you think of that? Do you think that that is a good look for the Republican Party? 

REP. BYRON DONALDS: No, I think going back on committees is what should happen. Look, what we told Democrat leadership when they went down this pathway of removing members from committee is basically saying, you should not do that because if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander. Let’s be very clear, Ilhan Omar has said things that are reprehensible. 

REID: Can you name one? 

DONALDS: Hold on, let me finish. She has said terrible things about the Jewish community, so much so that resolutions had to go to the House floor about them, and they were watered down. With respect to Eric Swalwell and to the other gentleman, that’s something for Speaker McCarthy to speak to in more detail because he’s going to make those decisions. But we were very clear in the 117th congress. We should not be going down this pathway of saying oh, that member said this, they gotta be kicked off committees. 

REID: But that’s happening though.  

DONALDS: No, no. What we’re doing is, you did it, so now this is what happens. This is the response. Let’s get back to what the status quo of you pick your committee people, we’ll pick ours and we’ll go from there. 

REID: But let me ask you this because that isn’t — you’re not getting back to that status quo, if you’re kicking people off committees and you’re saying it’s literally for vengeance, you’re now admitting it’s just for revenge, that doesn’t sound like getting back to the status quo, it sounds like using committee leadership for vengeance. That’s what you said. 

DONALDS: If you want to change the rules, we’ll live by your rules. I don’t think we should do that–

REID: But they’re doing it.

DONALDS: If you want to change the rules, that the House of Representatives has lived under, since the beginning of the republic, and now you’re going to change them because you didn’t like what somebody said. 

REID: I don’t think that’s a change in the rules. That’s happened before. People have been removed from committees. 

[crosstalk]

DONALDS: I will say, though, people being on and off committees has nothing to do with the work of the 118th Congress. We’re actually going to get to border security, we’re going to get to energy policy. We have to go through debt ceiling we’re gonna figure out a way to cut our spending, curtail our spending because we’re living well beyond our means. That is the work of the Republican conference in the next Congress. This other stuff is kind of a sideshow. 

REID: It’s not a sideshow because unfortunately, it’s kind of the show. So let’s talk about some of the things that Republicans have said that they would actually like to do when they’re talking about the agenda of the Republican Party. And this is what the chairs of the committees are saying that they’re going to do. Representative Mike Rogers of Alabama says they’re going to investigate woke social advocacy at the Department of Defense. That has nothing to do with the border or the budget.   

You’ve got Jody Arrington of Texas saying they’re gonna restructure entitlement programs, and slow spending which is what you just talked about. But that means they would like to in some cases cut, slash social programs, social security, things that a lot of Americans depend on and paid into. Michael McCaul of Texas, investigate the withdrawal from Afghanistan. I think that seems fair. Calling on Mayorkas to resign. That is what Mark Green of the Homeland Security said is his priority. Calling on Secretary Mayorkas to resign. You’ve got Jim Jordan who is leading Judiciary, leading a subcommittee to probe the, quote, weaponization of the federal government. 

You’ve also got those who want to investigate President Biden. But this one about weaponization of the federal government, that is about the FBI having a court-sanctioned raid on the former President, Donald Trump’s home because he had lots and lots of classified documents. Hundreds of classified documents that he was not entitled to, and when he was asked to return them, he didn’t. And also, it seems possible that it might be about going after the Justice Department for investigating the insurrection that Jim Jordan supported. 

DONALDS: Well, a couple of things. First and foremost, let’s speak to the weaponization committee of the federal government. We see what’s happening at Twitter. Twitter now is releasing…



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