Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Hamas attack

Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel[edit]

Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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This looks like a re-creation of an article that was deleted two months ago (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alleged Palestinian genocide of Israelis). The current article suffers from similar issues. The majority of the text in this article is WP:SYNTH, in that the source cited doesn’t explicitly say that the Hamas-lead attack constituted genocide. In fact, many of the sources predate the attack, so they can’t possibly be making that assertion. The few sources that do explicitly state f should be covered under Second_Holocaust#Claims_that_Palestinians_are_committing_genocide. VR _talk 13:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Israel and Palestine. VR _talk 13:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Pinging participants from the last AfD (BilledMammal—Iskandar323—SomethingForDeletion—Marokwitz—JMWt—nableezy—Oaktree b—Daveout—Sj—Zero0000) VR _talk 13:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete – there are lots of extreme concepts flying around this conflict from various commentators and I don’t think we have to participate in the war of words. If there really is a reason to write an article about the use of words in this conflict it seems to me to be way WP:TOOSOON to get the full picture. At very least we need to wait until we can write the page fairly. JMWt (talk) 14:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete: Still a delete, as SYNTH. Sources dating from before the attack… If you want to create a general article about this topic (without mention of this event), fine. A case could be made for that. Mooshing together a bunch of articles that talk about different things to try and prove a point isn’t necessary. Oaktree b (talk) 14:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  And in response to the “sourcebot” comment last time, you can install a browser extension for use on Wikipedia that uses the various RS lists we have and will colour code the sources used in the article. Beyond getting into a technical discussion about it, that should suffice. Oaktree b (talk) 14:09, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• SYNTH is not a valid deletion reason. There are sufficient articles that directly address the topic to establish notability. Anything else is just a content dispute. Marokwitz (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please note I included 20 sources referring directly to genocide accusation as well as being after the attack. It is below. Homerethegreat (talk) 14:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Strong Keep – article on very notable topic. I wrote it 2 months after the event, seeing along the discourse of experts in the fields of…