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For example, it purports that Adam Siao Him Fa has the highest-scored jump thus far this season: a Quad Lutz for which he received a 15.18. The provided source is simply a scoresheet that does show that he landed a Quad Lutz and received a 15.18. However, nowhere in the source does it say that this was the highest-scored jump of the season. Compare this with other tables in this article (for example, the ”’Season’s best scores”’, which provides a link to a source where all of those skaters are listed in order with those scores. This list of jumps, combos, etc. violates [[WP:No original research]] in that it involves a [[Wikipedia:Synthesis|Synthesis]] of sources in order to draw a conclusion. It requires parsing every scoresheet for every skater in every competition. [[User:Bgsu98|”’Bgsu98”’]] [[User talk:Bgsu98|(Talk)]] 13:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

For example, it purports that Adam Siao Him Fa has the highest-scored jump thus far this season: a Quad Lutz for which he received a 15.18. The provided source is simply a scoresheet that does show that he landed a Quad Lutz and received a 15.18. However, nowhere in the source does it say that this was the highest-scored jump of the season. Compare this with other tables in this article (for example, the ”’Season’s best scores”’, which provides a link to a source where all of those skaters are listed in order with those scores. This list of jumps, combos, etc. violates [[WP:No original research]] in that it involves a [[Wikipedia:Synthesis|Synthesis]] of sources in order to draw a conclusion. It requires parsing every scoresheet for every skater in every competition. [[User:Bgsu98|”’Bgsu98”’]] [[User talk:Bgsu98|(Talk)]] 13:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

== Current world standings ==

Is there a reason why one section of this article (”’Season’s best scores”’) includes only the top 20, but the ”’Current world standings”’ includes the top 30? This article is already overly bloated as it is. [[User:Bgsu98|”’Bgsu98”’]] [[User talk:Bgsu98|(Talk)]] 14:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)


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Wikipedia articles are meant for the average reader to gain more information on a particular subject. The section on World Standings is virtually incomprehensible, especially with no prose explaining how such standings are calculated. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I concur. I also struggle with the endless statistics for red-linked (unknown) juniors. It may be time to consider splitting junior and senior season articles apart. Well done reworking the data tables. —Dr.Margi 23:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The idea is that today’s red-linked juniors may be tomorrow’s blue-linked seniors. It’s impossible to know who will go on to achieve notability and who will not. It is much easier to add the link now – it will be filled in automatically should an article be one day created – than to go back to old articles to add the link. What needs to happen is to go back to older articles, see who is still in the red (so to speak), and delete the red since they never achieved notability and likely never will. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:17, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have removed this section from the article for several reasons:

  • It’s WP:FANCRUFT. This is not a figure skating fansite.
  • It’s incomprehensible to the average reader and full of unexplained technical jargon. The average reader is not going to understand “grade of execution” or “base value”.
  • Most importantly, it’s unsourced.

For example, it purports that Adam Siao Him Fa has the highest-scored jump thus far this season: a Quad Lutz for which he received a 15.18. The provided source is simply a scoresheet that does show that he landed a Quad Lutz and received a 15.18. However, nowhere in the source does it say…



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