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Milton Grant[edit]

Milton Grant (1923–2007) was an American disc jockey and owner of television stations. After a career in radio and television in the Washington, D.C., area, where he made his mark as a disc jockey and hosted the regionally influential The Milt Grant Show on TV from 1956 to 1961, he turned to broadcast station management. He founded Washington’s WDCA-TV in 1966; he sold it in 1969 but remained general manager until 1980. He then owned TV stations primarily by way of three vehicles: a partnership with Sidney Shlenker that started two highly successful stations in Texas; the Grant Broadcasting System, which lost its three stations in bankruptcy; and Grant Communications/Grant Broadcasting System II, which operated in midsize and smaller markets and continued in business after Milton Grant’s death until 2014.

Contributor(s): Sammi Brie

The proposed Good Topic consists of Grant’s biography, his eponymous TV show (which is independently notable), and all the operating television stations he owned in part or full (WLAX and WEUX share an article). This is the second GT in broadcasting (KTXA is also in the ON TV GT) and a third is planned which will have some of these articles. —Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:17, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Oppose: Is the various stations’ association with the guy significant enough to merit their inclusion in a topic together? Five of the articles don’t contain even a single mention of Milton Grant, and in most of the others he’s just mentioned in passing as one of various owners in the station’s history. On the other hand, the stations where you say he established his notability (WINX, WOL, and WTTG) aren’t included. This topic doesn’t seem well focused on this man’s life and notable work to me. Sorry, it’s clear that an enormous amount of work has gone into promoting all of these articles; I just don’t see a shared topic. –Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:27, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  @Bryanrutherford0: These are the stations he owned (he never owned WTTG or the radio stations), and some of them have very significant association with Grant. Grant built WDCA, KTXA, KTXH, and WBFS, and comprehensively rebuilt (in terms of programming and/or facility) WGBO (as in “Grant Broadcasting”), WPSG (as WGBS — Grant Broadcasting System), WNYO (which had been a Christian station for years), and KGCW (which was off the air when he bought it). Grant’s station ownership tenure is unusual in that he owned stations in four discrete eras (WDCA; KTXA/KTXH; the Grant Broadcasting System; and then the smaller stations he owned at his death). All of them except WDCA used the same logo style—even the tiny Fox affiliate in La Crosse/Eau Claire, Wisconsin. KLRT-TV is probably the most fringe, as he never ran the station (he owned 25%), but I wanted to cover my bases and had substantial material left over from KASN to improve it. I designed the GT scope in such a way as to include Grant, his eponymous show, and the TV stations he owned. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  If that’s the scope you want, then the name of the proposed topic should be changed to something more like “broadcast stations owned by Milton Grant”, and the Milt Grant Show should be cut, since it has nothing to do with any stations he owned. Even then, again, it doesn’t seem like his ownership was important to all of these stations, since his name doesn’t come up at all in their articles. Sorry to be a downer! –Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  I’ve gone ahead and made the changes to…