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Talk:Endemic COVID-19: Difference between revisions


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*”’Yes”’, per [[WP:MEDORG]]. Such statements are in and of themselves [[WP:DUE]] for this topic, and are themselves MEDRS (MEDORG is a part of MEDRS). No additional commentary or analysis by third parties of any kind is needed to justify inclusion; such a requirement contradicts Wikipedia guidelines and amounts to skewing due weight and hence, is POV. However, if analysis exists that is also MEDRS, it would additionally be included; however such is by no means needed to include the original statement. [[User:Crossroads|”’Crossroads”’]] [[User talk:Crossroads|-talk-]] 19:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

*”’Yes”’, per [[WP:MEDORG]]. Such statements are in and of themselves [[WP:DUE]] for this topic, and are themselves MEDRS (MEDORG is a part of MEDRS). No additional commentary or analysis by third parties of any kind is needed to justify inclusion; such a requirement contradicts Wikipedia guidelines and amounts to skewing due weight and hence, is POV. However, if analysis exists that is also MEDRS, it would additionally be included; however such is by no means needed to include the original statement. [[User:Crossroads|”’Crossroads”’]] [[User talk:Crossroads|-talk-]] 19:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

*”’Depends”’ with a side serving of ”’Bad RfC”’. If such sources are relevant and offer encyclopedic/[[WP:SECONDARY]] coverage of this article’s topic, or if they’re an actual “position statement” as MEDRS considers RS, then very probably yes. If they not that, and not that relevant (making, say, only a passing mention of ‘endemic’) then probably no; but they may be still be suitable for the country’s individual article on COVID. An RfC seeking to give an open-ended [[WP:LOCALCON]] for a source type while disregarding [[WP:CONTEXTMATTERS]] is a bad idea. What we want to avoid is a repetitive laundry list of sources that contains the substring “endemic”, but which otherwise offer no knowledge for the subject of COVID-19 endemicity. [[User:Bon courage|Bon courage]] ([[User talk:Bon courage|talk]]) 19:27, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

*”’Depends”’ with a side serving of ”’Bad RfC”’. If such sources are relevant and offer encyclopedic/[[WP:SECONDARY]] coverage of this article’s topic, or if they’re an actual “position ” as MEDRS considers RS, then very probably yes. If they not that, and not that relevant (making, say, only a passing mention of ‘endemic’) then probably no; but they may be still be suitable for the country’s individual article on COVID. An RfC seeking to give an open-ended [[WP:LOCALCON]] for a source type while disregarding [[WP:CONTEXTMATTERS]] is a bad idea. What we want to avoid is a repetitive laundry list of sources that contains the substring “endemic”, but which otherwise offer no knowledge for the subject of COVID-19 endemicity. [[User:Bon courage|Bon courage]] ([[User talk:Bon courage|talk]]) 19:27, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

===Discussion===

===Discussion===


Latest revision as of 19:30, 2 May 2023

Seems to me the article is WP:OVERTAG and I dont see any material discussion of any of these issues here or in the lone archive. @Bondegezou: please explain your re-addition of the tags and start discussion of them here. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 18:43, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This article is a disaster. There is no sign of the concerns raised on this Talk page being resolved. The tags are a (minimal) indication of the serious problems this crappy article has. Bon courage (talk) 18:47, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We had a long proposed merge discussion, now in the Archive at [1], which non-consensus-ed out. Some progress was made on bringing different perspectives together, for which I am thankful for editors involved, but I think some fundamental points of disagreement remain over the article (also discussed at [2]). That’s why I think tags are still useful.
There are three tags in contention: “The neutrality of this article is disputed”; “This article relies excessively on references to primary sources”; “This article needs more medical references for verification or relies too heavily on primary sources”. I (and others; see Bon courage‘s pithier comments above) still feel the article is (in places) trying to knit together (i.e. WP:SYNTH) numerous low quality references…



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